Comments on: 5 Pet Peeves Designers Have With Developers (and How to Avoid Them) http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/ Web Design Resources and Tutorials Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Kyle Schmornoffhttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-676792 Kyle Schmornoff Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:47:00 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-676792 And this is exactly why I'm trying to hone my skills in on the development side and the designer side. Avoid this kind of thing as much as possible. :P And this is exactly why I’m trying to hone my skills in on the development side and the designer side. Avoid this kind of thing as much as possible. :P

]]> By: decoractivityhttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-676073 decoractivity Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:17:36 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-676073 My guess is that this is due to installing software and not looking out for sneaky side-installs. My guess is that this is due to installing software and not looking out for sneaky side-installs.

]]> By: masenchipzhttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-608198 masenchipz Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:46:43 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-608198 Peeve #2: “The colors are all wrong!” hmmm... the colors is characteristics of your eyes *web :P Peeve #2: “The colors are all wrong!”
hmmm… the colors is characteristics of your eyes *web :P

]]> By: kailashhttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-599997 kailash Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:56:29 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-599997 I've manage to avoid this problem as a designer because: (a) I have a background in coding, so I keep the execution in mind while designing; and (b) The guy who develops all my sites is an old college buddy, and we've had a long working relationship. I’ve manage to avoid this problem as a designer because:
(a) I have a background in coding, so I keep the execution in mind while designing; and
(b) The guy who develops all my sites is an old college buddy, and we’ve had a long working relationship.

]]> By: Treaviolihttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-599969 Treavioli Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:59:48 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-599969 Oh god, I needed this post today. I work at a company where one developer/IT specialist controls everything (and with little knowledge about web standards). Me being a web designer with a programming/development sensibility, it really set me off to meet so much lack of cooperation. Luckily we had TWO project managers with us at a meeting to buffer but us sparring could've gone on for several hours. Working *with* a developer or someone with a technical background, could be really awesome but I need a teamworker not a brickwall. I most likely will be looking for a new job soon. Oh god, I needed this post today. I work at a company where one developer/IT specialist controls everything (and with little knowledge about web standards). Me being a web designer with a programming/development sensibility, it really set me off to meet so much lack of cooperation. Luckily we had TWO project managers with us at a meeting to buffer but us sparring could’ve gone on for several hours. Working *with* a developer or someone with a technical background, could be really awesome but I need a teamworker not a brickwall. I most likely will be looking for a new job soon.

]]> By: Rhetthttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-589396 Rhett Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:45:43 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-589396 Peeve #1 - Oh yeah? It depends on the developer. Not all developers are the same. Each developer has their strong points. I know some that are really good at database work, and some at the coding level (meaning vb, c#, etc) and then there's the html, css stuff that the end user actually gets to see.I work at both designing and developing websites, not that I think I'm the best at design, but I find my designs are affected by what I know can be accomplished at the code level (meaning html+css).I think one that is missed on #1 - why can't the developer just make it look like the comp? - is oftendtimes the limitations that are set on the project - such as working with a particular shopping cart or CMS that does not provide the level of access or flexibility for coders to do what they want. Believe me, there are coders/ developers who are very adept at making amazing things happen.Being employed as a developer, doesn't make you a developer any more than being employed as a designer makes you a designer. I have often had to put on my 'designer' hat to touch up artwork that comes from design agencies looking granular, pixelated, fuzzy or with bad text antialising, etc. Peeve #1 – Oh yeah? It depends on the developer. Not all developers are the same. Each developer has their strong points. I know some that are really good at database work, and some at the coding level (meaning vb, c#, etc) and then there’s the html, css stuff that the end user actually gets to see.

I work at both designing and developing websites, not that I think I’m the best at design, but I find my designs are affected by what I know can be accomplished at the code level (meaning html+css).

I think one that is missed on #1 – why can’t the developer just make it look like the comp? – is oftendtimes the limitations that are set on the project – such as working with a particular shopping cart or CMS that does not provide the level of access or flexibility for coders to do what they want. Believe me, there are coders/ developers who are very adept at making amazing things happen.

Being employed as a developer, doesn’t make you a developer any more than being employed as a designer makes you a designer. I have often had to put on my ‘designer’ hat to touch up artwork that comes from design agencies looking granular, pixelated, fuzzy or with bad text antialising, etc.

]]> By: codesparklehttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-589380 codesparkle Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:42:40 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-589380 kolin wins. kolin wins.

]]> By: LyndiThttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-584008 LyndiT Fri, 18 Jun 2010 21:50:36 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-584008 Married to a web/ecommerce developer and for two years we were able to stumble through our own worlds of communication about web design projects. I don't know if it is so much that we live in such different worlds as we both needed to learn to be better communicators. I think in general people are quick to judge or taking time to learn how to improve their listening skills, ask more questions and get clarification and feedback rather than doing the easy thing and just assuming everything is understood. Married to a web/ecommerce developer and for two years we were able to stumble through our own worlds of communication about web design projects. I don’t know if it is so much that we live in such different worlds as we both needed to learn to be better communicators. I think in general people are quick to judge or taking time to learn how to improve their listening skills, ask more questions and get clarification and feedback rather than doing the easy thing and just assuming everything is understood.

]]> By: Brandonhttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-580519 Brandon Mon, 17 May 2010 19:33:26 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-580519 I started out my career as a web designer and in learning the basics of web development, I caught the coding bug. I am now head of web development.I have worked with some very talented designers through the years but here's the issue. Just because you are a great designer does NOT make you a great WEB designer. I have noticed that an artist with a background in print really struggles with the transition to web, there seem to be very few designers that can actually understand the fundamentals of designing for the web. I strongly believe that you need to have a general understanding of code to succeed as a WEB designer.The design process needs to be a team effort in order for a project to succeed. I started out my career as a web designer and in learning the basics of web development, I caught the coding bug. I am now head of web development.

I have worked with some very talented designers through the years but here’s the issue. Just because you are a great designer does NOT make you a great WEB designer. I have noticed that an artist with a background in print really struggles with the transition to web, there seem to be very few designers that can actually understand the fundamentals of designing for the web. I strongly believe that you need to have a general understanding of code to succeed as a WEB designer.

The design process needs to be a team effort in order for a project to succeed.

]]> By: Louhttp://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/5-pet-peeves-designers-have-with-developers-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-580517 Lou Mon, 17 May 2010 18:15:21 +0000 http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=10071#comment-580517 However, "refusing to do html" limits your usefulness as a developer. Beware of the boundaries you set for yourself. However, “refusing to do html” limits your usefulness as a developer. Beware of the boundaries you set for yourself.

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