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> <channel><title>Comments on: When Minimalism Backfires: When Too Little Is Not Enough</title> <atom:link href="http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/</link> <description>Web Design Resources and Tutorials</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:53:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <item><title>By: Colin Stephen</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-581216</link> <dc:creator>Colin Stephen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 04:42:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-581216</guid> <description>This article is so irresponsibly written, its hard to fathom how or why.I would point out the portions of it that are inaccurate, but that applies to most if not all of it. How can you make such blanket statements about web design, referring to it all as minimalism or lack thereof?This is an extremely careless piece of writing, if I&#039;ve ever seen one.  You&#039;ve generalized things to such a degree, that minimalism has no meaning within the context of what you are describing.True minimalism as it pertains to web design, is not about restraint. It&#039;s about reduction. It&#039;s about knowing when something doesn&#039;t belong.Taking it easy on a design, because you are lazy or intimidating by having to do a lot of coding, is not a minimalistic approach. How you can repeat this idea in one article so many times, in so many different ways... is thoroughly offensive and proves how little you&#039;ve researched the topic. I sincerely hope you&#039;ve had a few months to resolve this, since having wrote it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is so irresponsibly written, its hard to fathom how or why.</p><p>I would point out the portions of it that are inaccurate, but that applies to most if not all of it. How can you make such blanket statements about web design, referring to it all as minimalism or lack thereof?</p><p>This is an extremely careless piece of writing, if I&#8217;ve ever seen one.  You&#8217;ve generalized things to such a degree, that minimalism has no meaning within the context of what you are describing.</p><p>True minimalism as it pertains to web design, is not about restraint. It&#8217;s about reduction. It&#8217;s about knowing when something doesn&#8217;t belong.</p><p>Taking it easy on a design, because you are lazy or intimidating by having to do a lot of coding, is not a minimalistic approach. How you can repeat this idea in one article so many times, in so many different ways&#8230; is thoroughly offensive and proves how little you&#8217;ve researched the topic. I sincerely hope you&#8217;ve had a few months to resolve this, since having wrote it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: James Seymour-Lock</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-573318</link> <dc:creator>James Seymour-Lock</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:08:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-573318</guid> <description>I agree with the above post, it takes a lot longer to design a minimalistic website.I think apple currently have the perfect combination of simplistic yet rich application design, which seems to be adopted by every mac app developer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above post, it takes a lot longer to design a minimalistic website.</p><p>I think apple currently have the perfect combination of simplistic yet rich application design, which seems to be adopted by every mac app developer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Craig Reville</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-565292</link> <dc:creator>Craig Reville</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:33:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-565292</guid> <description>I think to be honest, minimalistic styles are more difficult than people realize.To take alot of content, add it EFFECTIVELY into a site with the bare minimum styling and make it look appealing to consumers, is extremely difficult. I spent 3 weeks styling one minimalistic website and only 5 days for a complex graphically challenging site.To say its laziness or ignorance is ignorance in itself and unless you try to see it from the other perspective then your not gonna understand.I love complex sites with over the top styling and complex coding but prefer to keep my personal site simplistic, i have used complex coding also, to achieve this.In my opinion, A great designer will be able to take KEY information from the client and design the website effectively to the given spec, it may or may not end up minimalistic.Charles Rennie Macintosh used simplistic styles in his era and the 60&#039;s were all about keeping it simple, so minimalistic is NOT a new thing and is certainly not the new MODERN.RegardsCraig</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think to be honest, minimalistic styles are more difficult than people realize.</p><p>To take alot of content, add it EFFECTIVELY into a site with the bare minimum styling and make it look appealing to consumers, is extremely difficult. I spent 3 weeks styling one minimalistic website and only 5 days for a complex graphically challenging site.</p><p>To say its laziness or ignorance is ignorance in itself and unless you try to see it from the other perspective then your not gonna understand.</p><p>I love complex sites with over the top styling and complex coding but prefer to keep my personal site simplistic, i have used complex coding also, to achieve this.</p><p>In my opinion, A great designer will be able to take KEY information from the client and design the website effectively to the given spec, it may or may not end up minimalistic.</p><p>Charles Rennie Macintosh used simplistic styles in his era and the 60&#8242;s were all about keeping it simple, so minimalistic is NOT a new thing and is certainly not the new MODERN.</p><p>Regards</p><p>Craig</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 8gb usb stick</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-562841</link> <dc:creator>8gb usb stick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:55:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-562841</guid> <description>Hi,
I am also a fan of minimalist websites.I like the plain and simple approach. I cant stand website which make things over complicated. The basic approach draws a users eye to specific areas of the page rather than make everything harder to find.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br
/> I am also a fan of minimalist websites.I like the plain and simple approach. I cant stand website which make things over complicated. The basic approach draws a users eye to specific areas of the page rather than make everything harder to find.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Leah</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-562264</link> <dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:03:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-562264</guid> <description>Well, this article has certainly generated a lot of discussion, so it must have gotten us all thinking....One thing I now appreciate from this discussion - minimalism need not be all white. Twitter is a good example.I think the test for when to use minimalism is what you want your site to &quot;say&quot; -If you want your site to say, &quot;hey, look how much is happening here!&quot; or &quot;we&#039;re chock full of events/news/stuff, etc., check it out!&quot; then minimalism is probably not for you.If you want your site to say, &quot;it&#039;s pretty simple actually, just contact us&quot; or &quot;we&#039;ve got gorgeous stuff, just come&quot; - then minimalism is great.Every site gives off a certain message and you need to decide what you want that message to be.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this article has certainly generated a lot of discussion, so it must have gotten us all thinking&#8230;.</p><p>One thing I now appreciate from this discussion &#8211; minimalism need not be all white. Twitter is a good example.</p><p>I think the test for when to use minimalism is what you want your site to &#8220;say&#8221; &#8211;</p><p>If you want your site to say, &#8220;hey, look how much is happening here!&#8221; or &#8220;we&#8217;re chock full of events/news/stuff, etc., check it out!&#8221; then minimalism is probably not for you.</p><p>If you want your site to say, &#8220;it&#8217;s pretty simple actually, just contact us&#8221; or &#8220;we&#8217;ve got gorgeous stuff, just come&#8221; &#8211; then minimalism is great.</p><p>Every site gives off a certain message and you need to decide what you want that message to be.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris McCorkle</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-561617</link> <dc:creator>Chris McCorkle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:09:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-561617</guid> <description>I only support a minimalist design approach (as well as grunge, sleek, etc) if it establishes the brand, communicates the message, and engages/entices the visitor to react in a way that benefits the company. Period.Never sacrifice utility, usability, and valuable content by letting the design get in the way... If you can help it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only support a minimalist design approach (as well as grunge, sleek, etc) if it establishes the brand, communicates the message, and engages/entices the visitor to react in a way that benefits the company. Period.</p><p>Never sacrifice utility, usability, and valuable content by letting the design get in the way&#8230; If you can help it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monika</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-561604</link> <dc:creator>Monika</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:20:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-561604</guid> <description>Minimalist design wasn&#039;t born in the 50th  it was born ~~1920 ;)Minimalistic design isn&#039;t per se the lake of images.And I hope we design for the customers of our customers ;)&quot;The worm must be tasty to the fish, not the fisherman.&quot;Keep your design so simple as possible -but no px simpler.Sometimes I see &quot;pseudo&quot;minimalistic designs: no images, poor fonts but a lot of big borders.This designs doesn&#039;t have the feeling of minimalistic, they are simple boring.regards
Monika</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minimalist design wasn&#8217;t born in the 50th  it was born ~~1920 <img
src='http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Minimalistic design isn&#8217;t per se the lake of images.</p><p>And I hope we design for the customers of our customers <img
src='http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>&#8220;The worm must be tasty to the fish, not the fisherman.&#8221;</p><p>Keep your design so simple as possible -but no px simpler.</p><p>Sometimes I see &#8220;pseudo&#8221;minimalistic designs: no images, poor fonts but a lot of big borders.</p><p>This designs doesn&#8217;t have the feeling of minimalistic, they are simple boring.</p><p>regards<br
/> Monika</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Derek K</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-561427</link> <dc:creator>Derek K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:29:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-561427</guid> <description>Maybe a few examples of what WDD considers &#039;minimalist style&#039; websites would have been better. The article only has one screenshot. And there&#039;s a large difference between what web design considers minimalism, and what the rest of the art world considers minimalism.Design Meltdown has a fairly large list of what he considers minimalist design:
http://www.designmeltdown.com/chapters/Minimal/If this is what WDD is referring to as minimal design, than I propose rewriting the article to this:It’s Just a Style: fine. But you can do whatever you want, just serve up quality over quantity.Minimalism Is for “Artsy” Websites: craigslist isn&#039;t an artsy website. But is very minimalistic.The Ordinary Web User: will probably like a minimalist website because it loads fast and the content they need isn&#039;t hidden under piles of superflous content and flourishes.Content-Rich vs. Cluttered: You can have content rich minimalist design. Again, quality over quantity.Are We Just Lazy? &amp; Minimalism Misused: is applicable to other styles. Not just minimalism. I can say the same about WDD&#039;s style. The header illustration looks like all the PSD tutorials kicking around and the rest is a fairly generic WP blog layout.Intro &amp; Wrapping Up: should probably have paid attention to art history so that talking about minimalism as an art movement is historically acurate.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a few examples of what WDD considers &#8216;minimalist style&#8217; websites would have been better. The article only has one screenshot. And there&#8217;s a large difference between what web design considers minimalism, and what the rest of the art world considers minimalism.</p><p>Design Meltdown has a fairly large list of what he considers minimalist design:<br
/> <a
href="http://www.designmeltdown.com/chapters/Minimal/" rel="nofollow">http://www.designmeltdown.com/chapters/Minimal/</a></p><p>If this is what WDD is referring to as minimal design, than I propose rewriting the article to this:</p><p>It’s Just a Style: fine. But you can do whatever you want, just serve up quality over quantity.</p><p>Minimalism Is for “Artsy” Websites: craigslist isn&#8217;t an artsy website. But is very minimalistic.</p><p>The Ordinary Web User: will probably like a minimalist website because it loads fast and the content they need isn&#8217;t hidden under piles of superflous content and flourishes.</p><p>Content-Rich vs. Cluttered: You can have content rich minimalist design. Again, quality over quantity.</p><p>Are We Just Lazy? &amp; Minimalism Misused: is applicable to other styles. Not just minimalism. I can say the same about WDD&#8217;s style. The header illustration looks like all the PSD tutorials kicking around and the rest is a fairly generic WP blog layout.</p><p>Intro &amp; Wrapping Up: should probably have paid attention to art history so that talking about minimalism as an art movement is historically acurate.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Walter</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-561235</link> <dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:15:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-561235</guid> <description>The idea portrayed is that minimalism is right now hot on many designs. Not a trend on itself.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea portrayed is that minimalism is right now hot on many designs. Not a trend on itself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Charity</title><link>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/12/when-minimalism-backfires-when-too-little-is-not-enough/#comment-561234</link> <dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:00:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/?p=13899#comment-561234</guid> <description>Minimalism is a trend? Seriously? That&#039;s like saying grids are a trend. A &quot;minimalist&quot; style (or whatever you want to label it) can suit any genre of site, depending on what kind of message the author/owner wants to communicate. Every site&#039;s purpose and voice is unique.On a sidenote, I&#039;m beginning to question the value of content published here. It&#039;s interesting that the author of this article is the same who contributed the infamous article on grids last month. Our opinions on design definitely do not align. Not that I have to be in agreement to respect someone&#039;s opinion... but where&#039;s the quality control here? Articles like this can be very misleading to newcomers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minimalism is a trend? Seriously? That&#8217;s like saying grids are a trend. A &#8220;minimalist&#8221; style (or whatever you want to label it) can suit any genre of site, depending on what kind of message the author/owner wants to communicate. Every site&#8217;s purpose and voice is unique.</p><p>On a sidenote, I&#8217;m beginning to question the value of content published here. It&#8217;s interesting that the author of this article is the same who contributed the infamous article on grids last month. Our opinions on design definitely do not align. Not that I have to be in agreement to respect someone&#8217;s opinion&#8230; but where&#8217;s the quality control here? Articles like this can be very misleading to newcomers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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